nice but was she Faking It?

If I am lickng her Pussy and she trembles And in a moasning voices mumbles stop then I know I have suceeeded.She has come

Is this a good criteria to use ladies?

Or do you fake the "stop please stop" part too?

During intercourse I still rely on her demeanor to convice me.

Are there definate things that would tell ?

What do the men use to tell?

Were you ever sure you were being tricked by her into thinking she had cum?

What was your reacton?

posted by: fireman69 on Jun 4, 2005 at 9:30pm

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Bruce I want to answer this but have to go right now. I shall return.

Fireman

posted by: dannie on Jun 5, 2005 at 9:06am

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I don't believe in faking it...there's nothing to be gained for either of us. On that note, though, the only thing that bothers me when I don't is that the guy takes it personally, and doesn't believe that I enjoyed it. That was a big problem back before I learned how. (Yes...some of us unfortunate women had to learn it.)

posted by: fireman69 on Jun 5, 2005 at 3:55pm

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Bruce,
some ways that I have used in the past to tell when my lover has
orgasmed is by her contractions of her vagina, by her becoming even
wetter, and by noticing her getting warmer down there. I had 2 of
my 3 lovers that would occasionally "squirt" when they came. Very
easy to tell then. lol

I've never taken it personally if my lover didn't cum. I'd just
try harder next time. I'm also realistic enough to know that it's
not gonna happen everytime. Sometimes it was just a quickie
or more for me than for her. I've been very fortunate that none
of them has felt they needed to fake it.

Fireman

posted by: bewayne on Jun 5, 2005 at 4:17pm

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I'm confused as to whether you had to learn to fake it Dannie ?Or you had to learn how to have an orgasm?

Thats some amazing luck Fire to have had no fakes and to have had 2 squirter even if your basis is only 3 lovers.

With my many expirience with many women have yet to meet a squirter.

I had stopped belveing they existed.I will keep looking .

There are similar threads thouhout BDBP history that have shown most women do sometimes fake it

So I'm curious whether this group thinks it wrong in some way and that is causing them to want to be 1st to say?

posted by: MT_Lightning on Jun 5, 2005 at 4:42pm

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Why fake it? That only cheats yourself, I think. I mean, if it's a hard blow to his ego that he didn't get ya off, then he'll just try something else the next time. If a guy can't take the fact that it didn't happen for me this time, but might next time, then he's not my kind of guy to keep around.

I prefer to help a guy do the job right than to leave him without any help whatsoever...If I'm not getting there, I'll use my fingers while he's licking, help myself along. It's not just his job, afterall...and I do know how to push my own buttons pretty well. =)

posted by: dannie on Jun 5, 2005 at 4:42pm

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I was raised Catholic, so I had to let go of a lot of stuff before I could learn to actually relax enough to orgasm. (I guess, thinking back on it, it's a whole lot more than Catholic issues I had, given my history.)

posted by: MT_Lightning on Jun 5, 2005 at 4:46pm

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Oh, and as far as criteria (sorry, forgot to add that part) - it's different for everyone, I think. I don't orgasm the exact same way every time. I don't sound the same every time. There are sure-fire ways to know with me - like the shaking/shiver thing that goes on. Never have understood what's really up with that, but everyone I've ever talked to doesn't experience that. That's only when it's a extraordinary orgasm though, not every time. Usually there's a moment of "black out" where everythign just sort of fades out and then back in, glassy eyed sort of thing...but then, the guy's not gonna know that happened unless he's looking at my face, and that's not usually where he's looking. There's the clenching and the heat, too, of course.

posted by: fireman69 on Jun 5, 2005 at 10:08pm

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Dannie,
I bet you did have a difficult time learning to let yourself enjoy and
to orgasm after what happened to you. Were you a virgin when that
incident occured? What kind of things did you have to overcome by
being catholic? Please forgive since I don't know much about the
faith and if anything is too personal just tell me so. I'll
understand.

One of my lovers started being raped by her father and his friends when
she was 15 and she had real difficulty letting herself enjoy sex
without guilt and being able to orgasm. She had someone at home
willing to love her but instead she needed seek out the affection of
other men. Her idea of showing affection was letting them fuck
her to fill that void. She was older than me (I was 19~20 at the
time) and after we had sex she'd go to the bars make it known that she
had just had great sex but wanted to know if there were any guys
willing to try and out-do me. Ofcourse I only found out about all
this much later but that's another topic for another day.

I agree with you MT. Not all women orgasm the same or even the
same way each time. Your lover has to be man enough to realize
that he might be able to make you orgasm each time or that what worked
for one woman may not work on another. Doing the same technique
with the same woman may not guarantee she'll orgasm each time. If
he's not willing to listen and learn the sex life is going to suffer
and probably damage the relationship.

Bruce, I don't know if it was luck or my ability to make them feel at
ease, to listen to them and take note of what they liked, and what/how
they wanted me do/to please them. Communication and being open
with your lover is very important.

Fireman

posted by: MT_Lightning on Jun 5, 2005 at 11:02pm

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Of course we don't all act exactly the same. Just as you guys don't either. Thank goodness, had a couple experiences with a guy that left me going "what the hell was that?" - Would be very boring if we all orgasmed the same way and the same way every time.

posted by: dannie on Jun 6, 2005 at 7:02am

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As far as the whole Catholic thing goes, It's more of a guilt thing, which my Grandmother truely mastered.

As far as the rape issue goes, yes, I was; but I also knew that if I wanted a snowball's chance in Hell of having a healthy relationship, I had to overcome any fears and/or discomfort.

Wow...at least 90% of my healing process was being surrounded by a loving, protective environment. I don't know how long (or even if) her situation could be fixed. It takes a whole lot more than just one person, though, I can tell you that.

posted by: fireman69 on Jun 6, 2005 at 7:39am

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Thanks
for replying Dannie and being so upfront and honest. I'm glad you
were able to realize what you needed to do to make sure you had an
enjoyable life. Having that type of support and protective
enviroment I'm sure was a great asset.

Fireman

posted by: bewayne on Jun 6, 2005 at 8:03am

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It is a fact <and i doubt this is only with me>that after a good blow job there is a tingle that results if sucking continues..

This tinling is more intense than i can bear and i have had to ask it be stopped .

As i think this to be a phsical reaction,i believe it to be common to men.

Is this sensation common to women as well?

posted by: fireman69 on Jun 6, 2005 at 8:25am

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Know
exactly what you mean Bruce, the area around the head of my cock gets
really sensitive. I don't let them stop if I can help it, lol.

I'm not a woman but I have been told by my lovers when I need to
changed technique or move to another area after they had cum because it
was super sensitive.

Ofcourse I want to hear more about it from the ladies.

Fireman

posted by: MT_Lightning on Jun 6, 2005 at 8:37am

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After a few times, yeah, things get a little too tender to touch. Give me some cooling off time, or just move and play with my nipples or something, and I'm good to go again in a few minutes. - or, better yet, let me do some stimulating of him instead. =)

There are some women who can't even be touched or breathed on around their clit because it actually starts to hurt really bad.

posted by: thegirldf on Jun 6, 2005 at 9:47am

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I'm that way, MT. As soon as I cum, I need stimulation to stop. It's almost painful, because I am incredibly sensitive there. Even if he tries to touch my nipples or whatever, I'll jump a litle, and he'll have to touch/kiss/lick really gingerly.